Ian welcomed investment advisor Catherine Austin Fitts for a wide-ranging conversation that included a discussion of aliens, the black budget, 'pump and dump' economics and the devaluation of the U.S. dollar. Fitts said the dollar is dropping because the federal government is "essentially bankrupt." Since the mid-1990s the economy has been pumped up using massive amounts of debt, she explained, and trillions of dollars have been shifted out of the United States.
Fitts shared details from a board meeting she attended at The Arlington Institute, where the topic of discussion centered on what it would be like to operate in a world in which aliens existed and lived among us. She remembered being offered the opportunity to have lunch with some aliens as well. Fitts also talked about her past lawsuit with the federal government and strange phenomena she experienced involving non-lethal invisible weaponry.