In the first half, Don Schmitt, a prominent figure in ufology and a veteran investigator of the 1947 Roswell Incident, shared his insights into the infamous crash and the ongoing secrecy surrounding it. He posited that the first atomic bomb tests in New Mexico might have acted as a "calling card" to extraterrestrial intelligence, indicating humanity's advanced technological capabilities.
Schmitt recounted his disclosure efforts with senator Barry Goldwater, who sought to uncover the truth behind Roswell. The conversation briefly reflected on the recent congressional hearings about UFOs, with Schmitt expressing cautious optimism. "The taboo has finally been removed... but they're not asking for the meat and potatoes," he argued. He criticized the lack of direct engagement with witnesses who could provide substantial evidence, lamenting, "How sad that all the Roswell witnesses are now gone."
Despite the many years that have passed since 1947, Schmitt revealed that he recently spoke with an 87-year-old woman who, as a child, handled material from the crash site. "She managed through her family to recover a piece before the military cleanup," he noted. Schmitt explained the shroud of secrecy surrounding Roswell, attributing it to a mix of ignorance and culpability among military officials. "They threatened witnesses... just imagine... they were threatening to kill children over a [so-called] balloon device," he scoffed. He then emphasized the moral obligation for greater transparency. "How about just tell the truth!" he insisted.
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In the second half, the man George Noory has dubbed the "Greatest Storyteller Ever Born" — Anglican priest Lionel Fanthorpe — shared various myths, legends, folklore, and tales. His described how his early fascination with the strange and unusual was sparked by his penchant for escaping schoolwork. "I would sneak in and crouch down behind one of the big library shelves," he recounted, indulging in the works of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne.
This ignited a lifelong pursuit of unsolved mysteries, including the infamous case of Jack the Ripper, for whom Fanthorpe suggested a compelling theory: "I think… [it] was a member of the distant edge of the aristocracy… or a surgeon avenging his son." He also delved into the intriguing lore of Spring Heeled Jack, describing him as "very tall and thin but immensely strong." Fanthorpe's vivid descriptions of Jack's escapades, including extraordinary leaps over ten-foot walls, painted a captivating picture of urban legend. He mused over the possibility that Jack may have been extraterrestrial, suggesting, "Could he have been born to a more humanoid race on a distant planet?"
The conversation ventured into other folklore, including "duendes" or goblins in Spanish culture, with Fanthorpe likening them to mischievous leprechauns. He also remarked on parallel universes and the notion that creatures from these dimensions might occasionally manifest in ours.
Fanthorpe then shared his experiences with exorcisms, providing listeners with a glimpse into the mysterious world he navigates as an ordained priest. He detailed a particularly strange exorcism involving a haunted Ford Capri. The car exhibited erratic behavior, steering itself perilously close to pedestrians. "I could feel that there was some sort of dark force overcoming that car," Fanthorpe recalled. After performing a prayer, he sensed a shift, although the entity did not completely vacate the vehicle. "It seemed to have subsided into something... harmless," he noted, adding that the car still bore the ominous number 666 on its license plate.
The last half hour of the show featured a previous interview with Hans Christian King on the topic of angels.
News segment guests: Chris Gilbert, Kevin Randle