Controversial author David Icke spoke with George for the first time on Wednesday night. "I became conscious of two levels of myself-- ¦that which is experiencing this world and that which is guiding that which experiences this world," Icke said, of one of his earlier revelations that led him to transform his view of reality.

"If she had different DNA, she might be cleaning the throne rather than sitting in it," Icke said of the Queen of England, who as a Windsor, is part of a bloodline he believes was created by interdimensional reptilian beings. Icke said this bloodline of the "Illuminati" has been working to create a world government in which they can control and manipulate the populace. Their bottom line agenda? To "access an energy source," that is created by human fear and stress, Icke explained.

"We have to get control of our minds back," he said. "The lives we live are illusory manifestations of the imagination of ourselves," he continued, describing our situation as a kind of hologrammatic existence similar to that portrayed in the film The Matrix. But rather than fighting, Icke suggested to just become aware of "the reality that the Illuminati seek to disguise and keep from us."

The Reptilian Connection

David Icke wrote in his book Children of the Matrix that interbreeding between humans and a Reptilian race began "hundreds of thousands of years ago," and continues today. He believes that 13 family bloodlines containing this hybrid DNA make up members of the Illuminati, a secretive cabal "that are orchestrating an agenda to take over the planet."

In the article The Reptilians: Why They Are Obsessed with Bloodline and Ritual, Icke says he has culled some of his information about the reptilians from a "channel/medium" in England which confirms his own research. "The reptilians and other manipulating entities exist just outside the frequency range of our physical senses. Their own physical form has broken down and they can no longer re-produce. Thus they have sought to infiltrate human form and so use that to exist and control in this dimension," he writes.

Reports of the reptilian form have increased over the years in alien abduction studies, and by some estimates now account for 10% of the beings that experiencers encounter. Jazz singer Pamela Stonebrooke's vivid account of her contact and sexual experiences with a reptilian has been extensively publicized. Click here to view a drawing of this being. Also of interest is a drawing by paleontologist Dale Russell who in 1982 postulated what an intelligent dinosaur might look like if they had continued to