Thursday's guest, author and speaker David Icke returned to the show to discuss his belief that the world is controlled by a hidden elite, known as the Illuminati. This group, he said orchestrates events such as 9-11 years in advance, as part of their "problem-reaction-solution" strategy that they use to carry out agendas that enforce their centralized control. 9-11 couldn't have been pulled off without the backing of one major intelligence agency Icke contended.

Connected to a race of interdimensional reptilians, the Illuminati seek to preserve a world of fear and turmoil, so that these beings can feed off the resultant negative energies, he explained. Icke said Princess Diana may have been aware of this, having declared to her alternative healer Christine Fitzgerald that the Windsor's were "not human," and in fact her nickname for them was "The Lizards."

Icke also touched on his trip to Brazil last year where he was invited by the locals to partake in the psychoactive substance ayahuasca. During his five-hour trip he felt utter bliss and heard a voice that told him that "infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion." Through this experience, he saw how people come to accept our "hologramic" state of hypnosis as reality.

The Icke Interview

I caught up with tonight's guest David Icke at the Bay Area UFO Expo back in September (2003). Part One of my conversation with him will be featured in the December issue of After Dark. In this excerpt, Icke responds to my question if he has ever personally witnessed any humans shape-shifting into Reptilians (as he has frequently reported in his books).

"I've seen eyes change of people…like major politicians in Britain [that] I met before I was into all this…In my research years later, I learned that they were part of the game…And it blew me away obviously, because I wasn't into any of this at the time. I was a presenter at the BBC- and I'm meeting these people. I look into their eyes and they just turn jet black. There is no pupil, there is no iris, there is no white, the whole of their eye went black."

"At the point where I made contact with their eyes, their eyes (the black part) just went on forever. What I was seeing, I now understand, was looking through their eyes into another dimension where an entity was controlling the physical body's mental/emotional actions…[The Reptilians] wear the five sense physical body like a spacesuit…They are wearing/possessing/taking over the five sense human form and using it to operate in this dimension."

The Reptilians "are seeking to feed off the energy of fear which seems to be their sustenance. They have created a society which is designed to create maximum stress, maximum terror, maximum guilt, maximum fear…because all those are expressions of the same basic energy field they feed off," Icke said.

--Lex Lonehood