Col. John Alexander, the author of such books as Winning the War joined guest host George Knapp in a wide-ranging discussion that touched on the UFO cover-up, the mysterious 'Aviary' group,NIDS research, geopolitics & the Middle East. The so-called 'Aviary' was composed of high-ranking military officials who were speaking to UFO researchers Bill Moore and Jamie Shandera, and the bird nicknames were used to covertly identify them at the time, Alexander explained, adding that they were not part of a nefarious plot or cabal.

Two other alleged 'Aviary' members, Robert Collins and Richard Doty, recently published the book Exempt from Disclosure, yet Alexander said he doesn't view the military's effort regarding UFOs to be so much of a cover-up, as simply a declaration that the issue is not a problem, so therefore they are not focusing on it. He did state that the Air Force "has done a disservice" with their reports on the Roswell incident which don't fit the circumstances.

Alexander discussed his work for the NIDS project, investigating anomalous activity such as animal mutilations. Because the studies weren't producing hard results, the project was halted, he noted. He also assessed the situation in Iraq, commenting that the public doesn't realize we are involved in a 50-year war there, and that the increasing national debt from this, is now a critical issue.

Mad Cow Update

In the first hour, research scientist Colm Kelleher provided an update on Mad Cow disease. The illness has somewhat dropped off the radar, but the US continues to only test 1% of cows (as opposed to 100% in Japan), he reported. Further, American health authorities are not actively testing for CJD (the human form of the disease) which may be more widespread than thought, he said.