Retired Air Force Capt. Robert Collins spoke with George Knapp about his investigations into UFOs, ETs, MJ-12 and government knowledge. Collins detailed his involvement with a secretive group with ties to intelligence and the military, known as the "Aviary." They used bird names in order to protect their identities while communicating with each other about UFO-related subjects, he explained (a list of members compiled by Richard Boylan is posted here). Collins was the "Condor," and appeared in silhouette under that name on a 1988 TV special UFO COVERUP LIVE, along with the "Falcon" (Richard Doty), revealing information about ETs.

Three different ETs lived in secret facilities in the United States at various times, Collins reported:

• 'EBE 1' was recovered in 1947 and taken to a containment area in Los Alamos. A voice box was put in its throat so it could communicate.
• 'EBE 2' (1964-1984) came as part of an exchange program from the third planet of Zeta 1, and resided in a Los Alamos safe house.
• 'EBE 3' was a female that arrived in 1978 and left in either '89 or '93. Reagan supposedly had meetings with two of the EBEs.

Collins also discussed an incident known as "Gate 3" in which a "cloned biological entity" escaped a containment area in Area 51 and was subsequently shot, after the entity "pulverized" a guard.

Texas UFO Update

First hour guests, Alejandro Rojas & Ken Cherry both of MUFON, and researcher Dick Criswell spoke about the Texas UFO incident. Cherry & Rojas found the military's explanation that people were seeing a squadron of F-16s to be implausible-- witnesses described the craft as silent, whereas F-16s are very noisy. Criswell speculated that the military jets were dispatched after a UFO breeched airspace near Bush's Crawford compound.