Researcher of Anomalous Scientific studies, Derrel Sims discussed his investigation into abductions and his quest to find physical evidence to confirm them. "I'm just stunned by the evidence we find," he said, of the material he collects from abductees.

Sims talked about some of his goals with regards to DNA testing of abductees. His theory is that abducted women are being used as incubators by the ETs to create humans from the genetic material of other abductees. He based that on repeated testimony from abductees who insist that their parents are not their real parents. He postulated that if DNA testing could prove that the abductee's mother was not their true mother, "then you may have a case to point out" as evidence for such genetic manipulation.

He also detailed his study of fluorescent residue allegedly left on abductees after their experiences. "The vast majority of it is due to casual contact" with the abductors, he said. He explained that this material can be seen under a black light by examining the abductee within a day or two after their experience. He recounted interviewing one experiencer who claimed to have been taken aboard a UFO and was forced to handle a hybrid baby. After noting the exact way the woman had held the child, Sims "pulled out a black light and blasted it across her neck and hands and there were these pink fluorescents."

Looking at the abduction phenomenon from a big picture perspective, Sims was weary of what might be the agenda of the ETs. He speculated that their aim may be to create a more docile human race, "to make us pliable, malleable ... and to obey." Despite this dire supposition, Sims cited the strong desire by abductees to defend themselves and their family and was optimistic that a sinister ET plan would not be easy to accomplish-- "they've got their work cut out for them, whatever it is they've got in mind."

10/14 UFO No Go

First hour guest Stanton Friedman reacted to the October 14th UFO non-event . He observed that this particular UFO prediction was "not very specific except for the date" and that the additional clue of "Alabama" wasn't even clear to the people who claimed to have received the ET message.

Despite the lack of a big UFO event on the 14th, Friedman pointed out that MUFON receives over 400 sightings a month, which would indicate that UFO sightings happen every day.