Filling in for George Noory, John B. Wells (email) welcomed occult practitioner Winter Laake for a discussion on Satanism and Black Magic. Laake said his interest in the occult began in early childhood. Subsequent study of the dark arts led him to conclude that mankind is inherently evil and "Satan is the master of the world and the universe... a pervasive force, [an] energy that is throughout and all." Satan is a spiritual force that can take forms here on Earth and throughout the galaxy, he continued. It is an energy that can become part of us, Laake explained, noting that he believes an elevated dark force has manifested within him. Lower tier evil entities on the other side possess people of lesser wills, he added.

Laake revealed that Satanism, or some more general form of it, is the fastest growing religion on Earth. He admitted to placing satanic curses on people via psychic projection, pointing out that he doesn't believe in karma and is not interested in hurting people. He commented on what he called phantasmagoria, which is when the presence of evil can be felt, as well as the manifestation of darkness in the world and mankind's draw to that destructiveness. He also touched on concepts of a worldwide mind and satanic singularity (when mankind merges with nano-machines), Terminator-like ground-based reaper drones, the viciousness of the American government, and a future dystopic war between the Haves and Have-Nots in the not so distant future.