In the first half, Dr. Joel Wallach discussed how to benefit from natural healing and diet without using modern medicine. Diseases and ailments are often related to deficiencies in various nutrients and minerals, he contends. Recently, the World Health Organization said that eating processed meats like deli slices and bacon increases your risk of cancer at the same rate as smoking, or working in an asbestos environment does, "and I said that since '71, and everybody laughed at me," he recalled. "When you cook your meat well done, it increases the risk of breast cancer for ladies by 462%," he added.

Distilled water is good because it's clean but it does pull minerals out of your body, he noted. What he suggests is adding 1 ounce of organic plant minerals (a colloid solution) into each quart of distilled water. Wallach also recommended Quanta water-- a structured water that lowers the surface tension of your intestine so that you can absorb more nutrients. He also commented on medical marijuana-- it does have omega 3 fatty acids in it that can reduce inflammation and reduce risk of blood clots, he cited.

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Since his days rolling with the band Blondie, Gary Lachman, has become a leading authority in the field of esoteric studies. In the latter half, he spoke about his research that has shown how our Western traditions have been remarkably impacted by key thinkers and movements from the past, including from ancient Egypt, the Renaissance, the Gnostics, Rosicrucians, and right up to thought leaders of the 1960s. His interest in the occult and esoteric subjects first began during the years he was in Blondie (1975-1977), and he subsequently gave up music and became a full time author and researcher delving into the work and lives of such luminaries as Carl Jung, Aleister Crowley, Madame Blavatsky, Emanuel Swedenborg, and Rudolph Steiner.

Lachman noted that occult and metaphysical ideas used to be more an accepted part of both the church and the scientific realm. The teachings of a mythic figure known as Hermes Trismegistus, dating back to the 4th century BC, were for a time melded with Christianity, and there are mosaics in some European churches depicting Jesus learning from Hermes, he detailed. But as the Dark Ages approached, there was a kind of "esoteric exodus" in which such ideas were removed, he continued. Isaac Newton, the father of modern science, actually wrote a lot about alchemy and the occult sciences in the 1700s, but this aspect of his work has been kind of airbrushed out of his career, as metaphysical ideas were pushed out of science in the last 300 years, he pointed out.

News segment guests: Douglas Hagmann, Mish Shedlock