Paranormal experts Paul and Ben Eno joined George Knapp to discuss the interconnectedness of various out-of-the-ordinary phenomena. After decades of research, the father/ son team has come up with a "unified field of weirdness" based on the scientific theory of multiverses. Paul described the basic idea as an "elegant and free interaction between parallel worlds where all possibilities exist" and where our experience of strange phenomena occurs at places where the different universes meet. In essence, they believe that all possibilities exist at once, and that we often see strange things in areas that Ben referred to as "thin places," where the boundaries between our reality and other realities are not as defined. He added that all sorts of phenomena from UFOs to ghosts are often "going on simultaneously in the same area" in many cases they have seen.

They went on to describe their efforts to move beyond materialistic science. Paul pointed out that "in the west you take things apart to understand them, in the east, you put them together," which is the idea that informs their method. He recalled a meeting with an Australian Aborigine elder in 1979 who told him that he was on the right track with his pursuit of his holistic view. He said that shamans in indigenous societies are able to visit alternate realities where an affected person is not ill and bring that possibility back to our existence in order to heal.

Both Paul and Ben emphasized the human-centered nature of paranormal events, saying it is the witness that gives the encounter its meaning and power. "People are haunted, not places," Paul said. In the case of so-called "possessions," the Enos have developed a theory of psychic "parasites" that they say attach themselves to people and feed off of their fears and attention. They feel that the best way to rid victims of this type of problem is with positivity. As an example, they recalled one case where an apparent "parasite" was banished by using a joke book and humor. Paul cautioned anyone from getting into "ghost hunting" since he has seen many have their lives ruined by emotional turmoil, drugs and broken marriages.

From Rock Star to Congress

John Hall, best known as the founder of the band Orleans, discussed his time in rock music and how his environmental concerns led him into community activism, and eventually into political office. As a young man, he made his way to New York City in the early 1960s and played in clubs and cafes around musicians like Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, and the Lovin’ Spoonful. Hall got a big break when he wrote the song "Half Moon" for Janis Joplin, and went on to form Orleans in 1972. He began his career in public service when he helped to clean up a junkyard that was poisoning the local water supply, and ended up as a two-term member of Congress. As a legislator, he said he learned that "whatever you decide, somebody is going to be mad at you."