For more than 20 years, John Greenewald has dug deep to uncover the U.S. government's most closely guarded secrets regarding UFOs through his project Black Vault. He joined Jimmy Church (Twitter) to discuss this week's groundbreaking news regarding the Pentagon's official acknowledgment of three videos depicting unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). Greenewald spoke about his year-long struggle behind the scenes to get these videos declassified, and how the agencies involved in the process attempted to circumvent his FOIA request.
"The moment they said that they are unidentified aerial phenomenon, that in itself is admitting the videos are real," he explained. Greenewald admitted the recent announcement seems purposely designed to bury the Pentagon's acknowledgment of UAPs since it was released on a Friday night and during a news cycle dominated by coronavirus. While the UFO community was excited, the news mostly fell flat with the general public, he added. Greenewald warned the Pentagon's release was neither an admission of the reality of aliens nor top secret military technology. "The reality is the Navy is clueless on what these things are," he said.
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Followed by writer, podcaster, and researcher Micah Hanks, whose interests cover a variety of subjects, including history, archaeology, science, and unexplained phenomena in nature. As a longtime advocate for the study of unidentified aerial phenomena, Hanks addressed the recent rise of the UFO researcher and how more people, including some in traditional media, are turning to alternative sources for accurate information on UAPs. "I think it's been perennially the case that really the [traditional] media downplays these... fringe topics," Hanks conceded, noting in recent years he has seen some vindication.
Since 2017, a great renaissance has taken place with regard to UAPs and those who study them, and people are now taking this topic seriously, he reported. According to Hanks, reports of UAPs are something we should all pay close attention to as there are national security and technological ramifications, as well as the possibility of finally learning whether or not we are alone in the universe. "If we can approach this and present it through traditional media in a credible, responsible way, people will take notice," he suggested.