Foo Fighters / Covert UFO Research

About the show

In the first half, Graeme Rendall, a contributor to The Debrief, joined George Knapp to discuss UFOs before Roswell, including the infamous foo fighters seen by squadrons during World War II. Yet, according to Rendall's research, sightings of mysterious lights and "ghost" aircraft (nicknamed "foo fighters" by an American radar operator) were reported by pilots even earlier in the 1920s and 30s, and have been seen across a swath of Europe and the Pacific. Foo fighters were not uniform in appearance and came in a variety of shapes, sizes, colors, he said, from "200 ft. long torpedo-shaped objects with pairs of red lights...to what we call upturned bathtubs, and everything in between." While the craft didn't seem to show hostile intent, it was frightening to crewmen, and some thought it could be secret German rocket technology.

One theory was that foo fighters might be airborne searchlights, Rendall recounted, but that didn't fit the profile of the encounters. Natural explanations like ball lightning and the Hessdalen lights in Norway seem too localized for the widespread phenomenon, he added. There was an incident where gunners fired on a large luminous orange disc that came up behind them. Their bullets hit it at close range but seemed to have no effect on the craft, which eventually shot up into the distance. This kind of interaction happened numerous times during the war, he cited. Rendall noted that the inexplicable foo fighter incidents share many similarities with modern military UAP reports, like the Tic Tac sighting aboard the USS Nimitz in 2004.

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Richard Lang is the Agency Director for AIRIA - (Aerospace Research Investigation Reporting Agency) and has been a UAP investigator since the early 1990s. In the latter half, he talked about his investigations, particularly work he did for the at-one-time secretive Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), a subcontractor funded by the US government to study the UFO phenomenon. BAASS accessed MUFON's extensive database on UFO cases, he detailed, and paid particular attention to cases that met their higher criteria standards-- such as aircraft pilot sightings. BAASS's main interest was in propulsion and UFO technology, so incidents that dealt with cattle mutilation or abductions were not focused on, he explained. Lang would deploy investigators to research the most significant cases and interview witnesses.

He interviewed an eyewitness to a fascinating case from 2009 in North Carolina. The man observed a black triangular craft in the night sky from his back porch. After his camera batteries suddenly died when he tried to photograph the object, he brought out a powerful spotlight and shined the beam on the craft so he could get a better look at it. "That was a huge mistake," said Lang, "because when he did that, this real sharp beam of light came down and hit him." He was knocked down to his knees and suffered burns. He went inside but continued to observe the craft from his window, and it seemed to ascend into a kind of swirling portal. Later, the witness said MIB-type agents came to his house and told him not to talk about the incident. Lang also touched on UFO crash cases, and suggested that America's anti-aircraft radar may have interfered with the propulsion of some of the aerial craft and caused them to plummet.