Tic Tac UFOs / UAP Hearings

About the show

In the new documentary A Tear In The Sky (featuring William Shatner), a team of military personnel and scientists attempt to document, in real time, the ’Tic Tac’’ UFOs encountered by the U.S. Navy using state-of-the-art, military-grade equipment and technology. George Knapp was joined by Caroline Cory, writer, director, and producer of the film, along with Dave Mason, its science and technology researcher. The five-day period over which the project was shot resulted in a number of high-quality instances of what the team considered to be evidence of UAP activity off the coast of Southern California, Cory recalled. From one patch of sky that seemed to open and close (the "tear" mentioned in the film's title) the team were able to detect dozens of objects about 35 to 50 feet in diameter—which matched the size of the originally reported Tic Tacs.

Mason described the gear used to capture the tremendous amount of data of different types. In addition to readily available equipment like thermal cameras, telescopes, and night-vision goggles, he designed special gear himself for the project, such as binoculars that convert light into sound. He also invented a special transmitter that modulates radio signals to ultra-high frequencies and high-amplitudes, in order to communicate to any alien craft that ours is a relatively advanced civilization.

As is typical while creating documentaries, related Cory, A Tear in the Sky took shape on its own as the story progressed. Consequently, the focus the film is able to give to the human side of the original Tic Tac observers was not expected, but is one of its strongest points.

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Recently, the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence held its first open hearings regarding the UAP phenomenon. UAP researchers Joe Murgia, Danny Silva, and Ryan Robbins discussed the hearing and what, if anything, we learned from the two witnesses—along with speculation on what the closed-door session may have revealed. Robbins reported that despite criticisms of the limited scope of the committee's findings, he's happy with them because the door has been opened to further investigation. "This is the beginning, and it's only going to get better from here," he asserted. For his part, Silva acknowledged the positive aspects of the hearings, but he also expressed his disappointment with the witnesses at the hearings, saying he doubted their honesty and credibility at times.

Murgia offered the hearings' mention of the Wilson-Davis memo—a document thought to confirm secret government programs related to UFO research—as an unexpected bright spot in otherwise underwhelming proceedings. The subject of the memo, Admiral Wilson, denies its authenticity, but its entry by Congressman Michael Gallagher into the record of the hearings is significant, argued Murgia. "Gallagher, from what I know, will not let this go," he concluded. "If he can prove somehow that we have an intact craft, it's game over."

To discuss the video footage of the alleged "green pyramid UFO" captured in 2019, UAP researcher Jeremey Corbell joined the show by phone in the final hour. He criticized the official position that the objects were drones or other non-alien craft, arguing that national security concerns should dictate that a full investigation be undertaken. The other guests concurred, pointing out that Corbell seems to have more information about the craft than the officials assigned to investigate them.