Paul DeBole is an Assistant Professor of Political Science at Lasell College, where he teaches courses in American Government, The American Presidency, American Political Institutions, and perhaps his most popular course, the Conspiracy in American Politics. DeBole began by speaking with George about the upcoming Sirhan Sirhan parole hearing. DeBole told George he was “the only non-press observer (other than family) allowed to attend” one of Sirhan’s previous parole hearings in 2021. He said two of Robert Kennedy’s children and one grandchild were there to support his application for parole, and claimed that psychiatrists with the California prison system “have been stating for at least seven to eight years… that he posed little to no risk of re-offending.” California Governor Gavin Newsom denied that parole recommendation, however, and DeBole said he believed “there may have been some pressure applied” on the governor to make that decision.
DeBole’s other conspiracy discussion focused on Robert Kennedy’s older brother, former President John F. Kennedy, and Secret Service agent Paul Landis' book refuting the magic bullet theory in the JFK assassination. He focused on a segment of Landis’ book where he discussed picking up a bullet – a pristine bullet – he found on the backseat of the car behind the seat of first lady Jacqueline Kennedy, which he briefly pocketed before placing it on the gurney at the President’s feet. If this was, in fact, the “magic bullet” described in the Warren Commission report, he said, there was no way it could have made its way behind the first lady after striking the President and Texas Governor John Connally. “If that’s the magic bullet, then there’s no way that the magic bullet could have made the wounds in President Kennedy, the wound in Governor Connally, and then turned around, and made a U-turn, to deposit itself on the backseat. So, then the question is, who shot Governor Connally?” he asked. George closed his conversation with DeBole by discussing the history of UFO coverups and sightings by government officials, and the possibility of imminent UFO disclosure.
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In the back half of the show C2C's investigative reporter Cheryll Jones shared her interview with author and remote viewer Margie Kay. Kay revealed how she developed her skills, which include remote viewing and a form of what she describes as x-ray vision. She said she could see what others couldn’t from infancy, and that her first word was a name – Ha – that she gave to an image of a flower on wallpaper that turned into a Native American headdress as she looked at it. She said they’d later learn about a local chief who was known as Chief Haha. Her journey with remote viewing took off after she joined the military. She claimed that while her basic training apparently took months longer than it was supposed to, and she had only vague memories of the extra training time, she wouldn’t begin putting the pieces together until years later. That was when she took a job remote viewing for someone else seeking information about their time in the military, and the secret space program they believed they were involved in, and she discovered they were both involved in secret training exercises at the same time. “This is something I had no memory of either,” Kay told Cheryll.
Kay told Cheryll that she also believed she had been involved in government remote viewing projects, but that her memory of those events had been altered. “I suspect that I was, just because of the missing time I had, and the fact that as I went to these monthly meetings in a small town in Missouri, I have no recollection of what occurred there. I just remember going and coming home.” Though she can’t remember all the details, she has recovered some memories, which she touched on. She warned of the dangers of engaging in government remote viewing work, as well as discussing her work helping located missing persons, and her encounter with the extraterrestrial Valiant Thor. It was during one such encounter that she said Thor granted her the gift of x-ray vision.
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This was followed by listener questions on open lines and, in the final minutes of the show, George went back to October 6, 2020, and played a segment featuring James Fox on UFOs and the 1994 Ruwa, Zimbabwe landing.
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