In the first half, independent journalist Keith Thompson joined host Richard Syrett (Twitter) to discuss UFO sightings and other paranormal experiences. Thompson claimed there's a paradox in people's understanding of extraterrestrial phenomena. According to him, these events are both physical and mental. "Despite Western philosophy insisting that mind and matter are separated, there are experiences we've all had which indicate to us… that mind and matter are deeply unified," he explained. Thompson spoke of how someone can see the physical dimensions of an alien craft while also witnessing its transcendent qualities. "These same craft will very often divide in two, change colors, change density, appear to be like holograms," he told listeners, adding that these objects are manipulating our mental states while also existing in the material world. "The scientific method as it has been practiced… does not tell us what we need to know about the nature of consciousness," Thompson admitted.
He detailed his work with psychiatrist John Mack of Harvard University in drawing parallels between alien abductions and cultural rites of passage. He described these initiatory rites as someone being "taken from the home, separated and taught the traditions of the culture." Thompson believes that certain abduction experiences, whether earthly or extraterrestrial, call on humans to expand their understanding and join a larger cosmic dialogue. "I view UFO, paranormal phenomena, and near-death phenomena as a kind of metaphoric call from the cosmos," he said. "We're being called by the cosmos to expand our maps of reality, our maps of science and society, and self." Thompson talked about a near-death experience he had while body surfing in Hawaii. After finding himself caught in a violent rip current and believing he was dying, he felt his spirit rise out of his body and psychically connect with a worried friend on the beach. Experiencing this area between life and death gave Thompson further proof that the physical and spiritual realms are interconnected.
He also touched on the Catholic contemplative tradition, discussing the reports of practitioners levitating and displaying marks of the crucifixion known as stigmata, which resemble some of the physical markings on abductees. "What did Ezekiel see? What was the burning bush [for Moses]? There are incidents in the Bible that are encounters not with UFOs, but with phenomena that are filled with light and fire and brilliance," he shared. Thompson believes there is overlap among many of these extraordinary experiences, but overall, he described himself as an empiricist. "Let's follow the evidence wherever it leads," he said, "and if it takes you beyond your belief systems, be willing to adjust your belief systems." The conversation's other subjects included the paranormal experiences of Emily Trim, David Grusch's UFO testimony, the persecution of Galileo for his revolutionary beliefs, the "Tic Tac" UFO sighting off the coast of San Diego, and many other topics.
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In the second half, Lynette Hill detailed her journey into the world of cancer, a true story that tested her strength in unimaginable and countless ways. Hill shared how in 2021, during the COVID-19 global pandemic, she was diagnosed with a 12-centimeter mass on her ovaries and bones. The doctors prescribed palliative care, not believing she had any chance of beating her illness. This news devastated her family, especially her five sons who had never seen her sick before.
In her book Overcoming Cancer, she writes about how Thanksgiving Day in 2021 was a turning point for her. At a routine checkup, her vitals were so low that doctors and nurses were shocked she was still alive. Hill described how she was rushed to the ICU as her husband stood by, horrified. After a three-week stay in the hospital, she came home determined not to take any more chemotherapy pills. "I didn't blame God. I wasn't angry. I was just surrendering to going home," she said.
Hill shared with listeners how she always considered herself a person of faith, but her illness strengthened her connection to prayer. While talking to God and waiting to die, she found herself browsing the internet where she came across information about natural healing. She admitted that while she was drawn to the literature, she initially kept it from her family members whom she described as "so ingrained in Western medicine." Hill had to filter out the snake-oil advertisements from the legitimate natural remedies, but one of the most compelling stories she found was from a man who healed his mother's breast cancer with turkey tail mushrooms.
Consuming these potent plant medicines is what Hill calls "going back to Eden" — a return to what God created on this Earth. Other than turkey tail mushrooms, her favorite natural remedies include soursop leaves, apricot kernels, and black seed oil. Although there are some toxic chemicals in apricot kernels, Hill stated that this medicine works by targeting and killing only the cancerous cells. "[The kernel is] also anti-parasitic. It's also anti-inflammatory. It has so many good things to it," Hill insisted. "And if you notice now, speaking of seeds, the powers that be are removing all the seeds from the fruit," she continued, referencing watermelons and grapes in the grocery store.
Hill recalled how she noticed her strength improve, and how her doctors were surprised to find the cancer fading away despite her not taking the chemotherapy medication. "I knew that God had already healed me, even though, medically, they can't say I'm healed," she explained. She also noted the importance of making lifestyle changes across the board, not just a few dietary adjustments. "I tell people you can't take what I call God's medicine and still go to McDonald's," Hill said.
Disclaimer: Coast to Coast AM is not dispensing medical advice. The above information is only a summary of Lynette Hill's story.