UAP Secrets / Scientist's Mysterious Death

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In the first half, Luis Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), joined George Knapp to discuss the government's long and shadowy involvement in UAP investigations. "Secrets are perishable — they have a shelf life," he noted. "If you're not careful, before too long they start to stink." Elizondo spoke about sensitive UAP materials "being housed by certain defense contractors" and criticized the lack of accountability within the military-industrial complex. "We need more information," he declared, "because there's a lot of information out there that's just not being shared." He also recounted his journey from government employee to whistleblower, stating, "I had a great job, a great house, the whole dream, and I gave it up to do this."

The topic then switched to government encounters with non-human entities, with Elizondo sharing that, from what he has learned, he is "100% confident they are not us." He suggested these beings could come from various realms, including "outer space, inner space, or the space in between." Elizondo also spoke about the Collins Elite, a group that he characterized as religious extremists who have historically blocked UAP research, seeing it as heretical to their faith. "People have been hoodwinked for a long time," he observed. As he navigates the whirlwind of media attention following the release of his book Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs, Elizondo remains focused on fostering an open dialogue about UAPs, insisting that "we have one chance to do it right."

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In the second half, former UK counter-intelligence officer Franc Milburn shared his investigation into the mysterious death of Amy Eskridge — a talented scientist conducting groundbreaking research. Eskridge, who described herself as a "paperclipper," had family connections to Operation Paperclip, where German scientists were brought to the U.S. post-World War II to advance the space program. "She was one of those people that you call a flyer, off the charts in terms of intelligence," Milburn noted, before describing how her life took a troubling turn. He revealed that Amy had been a victim of group stalking and unusual occurrences for several years prior to their friendship. "Initially it started with overt and covert surveillance and harassment," he explained, noting instances where her vehicle was tampered with.

Eskridge's work involved sensitive projects related to anti-gravity, and she was also vocal in her concern about weaponizing free energy — a process that could literally rip apart space-time. According to Milburn, Eskridge's professional opinions may have put her life in danger. He expressed deep concerns about the circumstances surrounding her death, which has been labeled a suicide. "I have some pretty major questions about whether that's the reality," he stated. The lack of a thorough investigation and the swift cremation of her body only deepen the mystery. Many of her colleagues also experienced severe intimidation tactics. "Two of them... called me up... and were very, very terrified," Milburn recounted.

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