Guest host Lisa Garr (email) welcomed entertainment executive Scott Carlin, journalist Ross Coulthart, and filmmaker James Fox for an in-depth discussion on their perspectives regarding the UAP mystery.
Coulthart explained that his investigation into the UAP phenomenon began when he heard about Jake Barber from multiple insiders connected to a secretive government program focused on UAP retrieval and reverse engineering. Despite the Pentagon's official stance denying extraterrestrial involvement, Coulthart built trust with Barber over two years—transforming a man who once refused any media exposure into a courageous whistleblower. Coulthart recounted his first encounter, where the intense security measures (armored vehicles, armed personnel, and covert transport) underscored the very real dangers that these insiders face.
Carlin described his entry into the UAP narrative as an unexpected opportunity rather than a career derailment. Introduced to the subject by filmmaker James Fox and his film "Phenomena," Carlin's decades-long experience in domestic television naturally steered him toward this mysterious topic. Through his collaboration with Coulthart, Carlin played a key role in securing production and distribution for a high-profile whistleblower from within the intelligence community—an individual with top-level security credentials and firsthand experience from the UAP task force. Carlin emphasized how the significant media interest has rapidly transformed the UAP story into a mainstream issue, catalyzing congressional hearings and legislative actions.
Carlin and Fox criticized mainstream media's failure to cover the UAP story adequately. Carlin argued that the press has abandoned its journalistic duty by ignoring a story that has been suppressed for decades, claiming that the government and military have been concealing evidence—ranging from non-human intelligence vehicles to recovered biologics—since World War II. He asserted that the media's longstanding neglect has left the public misinformed, forcing independent voices to step in and expose what he calls a catastrophic, systemic cover-up.
They also shared personal experiences that reinforced their commitment to UFO research and underlined the reality of the phenomena. Carlin recounted a striking encounter from 1995 on Nantucket—a mysterious black triangle that ignited his lifelong curiosity and set him on his investigative path, a journey further inspired by Fox's work. Fox, in turn, described his eerie sightings and interactions, including an incident involving a pulsating, egg-shaped object and accounts of inexplicable, non-verbal communications with a UAP. They suggested that if full disclosure were to occur, it could profoundly transform public consciousness and potentially unite humanity around a new understanding of our place in the cosmos.
The final hour of the program was devoted to Open Lines.