Art Rosengarten, a Jungian psychologist with over 50 years' experience, joined George Noory to discuss the psychological and symbolic meaning of Tarot cards. Rosengarten explained that his interest in Tarot began during graduate school after attending a seminar led by a professor who was also a Tarot master. He became fascinated by the cards from a psychological perspective and later wrote the first doctoral dissertation comparing Tarot divination to dream analysis. Although his primary career is as a mainstream psychotherapist, he has continued to study, teach, and write about Tarot.
Rosengarten described Tarot as a system of archetypal images rooted in the collective unconscious, similar to symbols that appear in dreams. A standard Tarot deck contains 78 cards divided into the Major Arcana and Minor Arcana, each with widely recognized meanings that readers study before developing their own intuitive interpretations. According to Rosengarten, effective Tarot reading combines formal knowledge of the cards with intuition, allowing readers to interpret symbols in ways relevant to the person receiving the reading rather than focusing solely on predictive accuracy.
He explained that Tarot can be used as a tool for reflection and personal insight, and that he sometimes incorporates it into therapy sessions with clients who are open to the approach. Rosengarten shared unusual experiences related to Tarot, including a story involving a suspected ghost interfering with electronics during a class and a reading conducted inside a crop circle, which he interpreted as symbolic communication about global concerns such as environmental and societal instability. He views Tarot not as fortune-telling but as a symbolic language that can help people explore deeper psychological and spiritual themes in their lives. Rosengarten also did Tarot readings for callers.
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Open Lines followed in the latter half of the program. Rita in Los Angeles described a dramatic incident in a hospital waiting room where a distressed man loudly declared he might kill himself. While the hospital staff and others in the room did nothing, Rita intervened, comforted him, stayed through his exam, and eventually drove him home to ensure his safety. She believes her actions may have prevented a suicide.
Aaron from Tempe, Arizona, recalled discovering a Civil War–era portrait of an ancestor named Jesse Shipley, a Union infantry soldier from the 1860s. When Aaron saw the photo, he was stunned because the soldier looked almost identical to his uncle, who had died a few years earlier, down to facial structure and expression. The resemblance was so striking that Aaron wondered if his uncle might have been a reincarnation of the Civil War soldier. Aaron said his uncle had dreamed about the exact circumstances of his own death before it happened, which made the whole situation feel even more mysterious and supernatural.
Ruth in Maryland shared a strange encounter from her teenage years, when she delivered newspapers in Laurel, Maryland. Walking through a garden to reach a customer's house, she suddenly heard a tiny voice behind her and turned around to see what appeared to be a leprechaun speaking to her. The bizarre moment felt surreal at first, as if she had encountered a mythical creature. She later realized the "leprechaun" was actually a little person dressed in costume who worked at a nearby Irish bar.
The final half hour featured a replay of John Greenewald of The Black Vault website discussing UFOs.
News segment guests: Heidi Hollis / Kevin Randle